| Thu, Jan 5 2012 08:21pm EST 1 |

Tarringo Vaughan
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The Roundtable
Is There A Prejudice Against
Poets?
Prejudice is defined as an adverse judgment or opinion formed
beforehand or without knowledge or examination
of
I was discriminated against for writing poetry! Yes and I thought
it had to be some kind of a joke. Now I’m sure we all have had
instances online or even in person where we’ve encountered people
who simply didn’t understand poetry or felt it to be not
something for them and that really is okay because different
people are entertained by different things. Well, an acquaintance
of mine who I haven’t seen in quite a long time wanted to get
together for a beer. We made conversation by asking each other
what was new. He continued to tell me about his job and I told
him I was working on a book of poetry to be published. His
response was “Oh Really” and he proceeded to ask many questions
about the process of publishing. I thought he felt it was cool
which gave me a sense of accomplishment. Well after the beer was
finished he jumps up and says he didn’t think it would be cool to
hang out again. I was very perplexed by this until he told me it
was “the poetry thing”. I was in so much shock and thought I was
on “punked” or something that I couldn’t even response and say
all the things I wanted to say. And trust me the language
wouldn’t have been…poetic. But in the words of Tribal Rayne “Fuck
em if they can’t hang!”

It really wasn’t my issue to worry about because obviously he was
pre-judging something he didn’t know much about or was assuming
he knew about. But it raised this question in my head because I
have encountered people here on MySpace who just aren’t turned on
by poetry. And I think it is because they assume it involves a
lot of translation and deepness. And furthermore I think they
believe there wouldn’t be any connection. How does what we write
as poets really affect others who chose not to read it? I don’t
think the average reader realizes how many different types of
poetry there is out there or that the music they listen to is
actually poetry. So today’s Roundtable I’m going to raise this
hot topic. Have you ever been discriminated against for being a
poet?
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| Thu, Jan 19 2012 04:26pm EST 2 |

Depth Writer
1364 Posts
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I remember that Boss Man!!!
We are discriminated... a damn cookbook has a better sales
revenue, at the end of the fiscal year! It is a shame, but
because they hold this dark cloud over our heads- does not mean
we must lay down, and always keep it gray!
What it boils down to... is they "individuals" are PRE JUDGING
us... and non-writers are the worst of the worst.... "I don't
understand what you have written! It doesn't make sense to me!",
and they move on- not really READING it, cos' if they did- the
meaning, or reflection, would certainly, almost always jump out
at them and BUMP THEM IN THE FACE.... like a real EYE OPENER of
sorts... lol
Then you have the WRITERS who are JEALOUS of the work, and effort
you put into a piece. That attack you because, they're not
getting the CREDIT, or RECOGNITION, or COMMENTS that you do. Well
let me help them out.... Here is some Klenix, wine, and a
violine.... Now let me make it bigger for you.
Occasionally, you will have other ''WRITERS OF WRITERS'' gang up
on you. Deleting you as a ''friend'', cos' they got the others
writers back. "Don't let the door hit ya on the rump on the way
out!"
I totally, get what you're saying T....
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| Sun, Jan 22 2012 05:23am EST 3 |

Simon Banks
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Certainly some bookshops are very weak on poetry, but others
strong. Relatively few people buy poetry books, and while I suspect
one reason is that poetry is accessible poem-by-poem online, while
to make much of a novel you need the whole thing and a book is
still a convenient medium, I also think many people are scared of
poetry because they find it puzzling or they're too literal-minded
or it can be too intense and dsisturbing for them.
But the question was about prejudice against poets, not poetry. I
avoid the title "poet" because it carries a lot of baggage. Somehow
you expect a poet to be a bigger-than-life performer, full of
himself or herself and entitled to be mean and nasty in verse
because it's art. I just write poems.
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| Mon, Jan 30 2012 11:34pm EST 4 |

Reid Thrower
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I myself was shoked when I went 2 a bookstore recently, trying 2
find some of the other poets I know who have books out or
availible at the online store, just never in stock at the brick
& mortar. & I was SHOCKED by the fact that the only
poetry books they DO sell are those by the Quote Un-Quote
"Classic" poets. I want 2 read the Great poets who are with us
Today. Guess the Only place that's availible is online or at this
site. It will frustrate the hell out of you, as a poet(whether U
call yourself that or not) if you let it
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| Tue, Mar 20 2012 05:36pm EDT 5 |

Joyce Gage
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I was once talking to another mother at a parent teacher meeting. I
told her I was a poet and she looked at me kind of funny and asked,
"Is that a real job? Do you get paid?"
Befuddled, I just turned around and walked away!
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| Sun, Apr 1 2012 04:56am EDT 6 |

Soma Dog
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Great topic...
If I mention any of my artistic endeavours anywhere - at anytime
- I almost always hear "get a real job". The thing is - every
real job I've ever had has been held down only to support my
music and writing. Work for work's sake? Take your protestant
work ethic and shove it!
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around "How does the poetry we
write effect those who don't read it?" To put it bluntly - it
doesn't... except... the whole writing/art thing requires a
headset. A "creative space" if you will. People are effected and
influenced by contact with that "space" - whether they view the
art. read the lines or listen to the track. I've seen it - it
kind of soothes people - and fires them up. Just talking, or
sitting and drinking, listening. It radiates. And I've known a
lot of incredibly creative people over my 50 plus years and I've
seen the effect they have on the world many many times.
Keep writing. Don't give a fuck about your audience. Write
because you want to or need to.
Oh yeah - as for bookstores not generally stocking poetry.
Consider this - if they stocked a few good shelves of poetry and
were taxed on inventory - they'd go broke. Poetry simply doesn't
sell. You can't blame a retailer for not holding onto stock
that's going to cost them money. And... a GOOD cookbook is
POETRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:))
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| Wed, Apr 25 2012 09:26am EDT 7 |

Peter Atta Brown
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a friend once told me that ''poetry is somebody's stupid idea'',and
that's what most people think,but I think that poetry is a ''sacred
ministry'' ,we write because we have a message that man needs to
hear.
am new,and just trying to settle,thanks for this beatiful
community,am here to stay.
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| Sat, May 5 2012 05:04am EDT 8 |

Depth Writer
1364 Posts
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a friend once told me that ''poetry is somebody's stupid
idea'',and that's what most people think,but I think that poetry
is a ''sacred ministry'' ,we write because we have a message that
man needs to hear.
am new,and just trying to settle,thanks for this beatiful
community,am here to stay.
answering Atta--
and I concur... Well said... So true
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